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  Mark Toutjian International Gilead Child Molester...

  by cyberjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in the 80s there was an bethel elder in the mexico branch, he was graduated along with his wife ruth becerril from gilead school.

  he was in charge of meps and the whole computer department... he then started had sex with a 14 year girl in his congregation in the city of texcoco mexico.... he was then df and kicked of bethel but his wife stayed.

  he then moved to usa took the girl with him and married her and a couple of years later was re appointed an elder again.. i saw a news article that an elder ex bethelite computer consultant from concord ca with the same name was charged on 1999 by the fbi for having sex with a minor in texas.. both from the same city elders jw and computer consultants.... i wonder what happened with his case..

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  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Concord-Man-Accused-of-Meeting-Teen-Via-Internet-2947002.php
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  What would happen if the Watchtower decided no more meeting at Kingdom Halls, only Zoom?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m seeing my hard core believing relatives slowly losing faith that the watchtower is the organization that “god” is using to represent him on earth.. just about all the churches in their area have opened up.. but not the watchtower.. this is having an affect on the faith of even the old timers.

  now the only ones who are still holding the faith are the female jws and only those past 70 years of age.

  even my old male jw relative past 70 are starting to say that it can’t be jehovah’s organization because the other churches are all open and god supposed organization who is supposed to preach the warning message is still closed with no open in sight.

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  Personally, I think of the WTBS as a corporation. A business, interested in making money. I believe they have "seen the writing on the wall," young people exiting, more waking up, and KNOW that they must restructure, pure and simple, and have hired PR people, business savy people to help them slow the exiteers.

  Videos, kids, less costs. Those Caleb & Sophia videos had my non-JW nieces afraid of their "My Litttle Pony" toys eager to toss them in the garbage in one showing of "Sparlock." Convinced that they were demonized, afraid out of their skins.

  The other niece came back from a visit with PIMI grandma and grandpa afraid mom & dad would die at Armageddon if they didn't become JWs.. she was 4.

  When WT had the "bright idea" that individual congregations "sign over" their Kingdom Halls to WT, "for liability sake, so 'in the future (the long term, well planned business decision future) they can sell them.

  I think they will do something like:

  sell off K Halls, make a video studio, move to Brazil, (the GB have been "taken to heaven, so obey their helpers") and either totally 'disappear with the cash, or merge (secretly) with another corporation and become a different business with whatever deception it takes.

  We'll see.
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  Has anyone contested a Will and WON????

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my jw mom just died last week, about 6 1/2 months after my non jw dad died (dehydration, starvation, imo) i was the executor of that will.

  before a month had passed of his death, my dad & mom's will was changed.

  i didn't know until she died.

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  Thank you, Sigfrid, it was devastating...
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  Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  new cases:.

  diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.

  tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.

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  So glad that there are lawyers out there that have the ability to win against WT.
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  Memorial Prep question

  by ExCircuitOverseer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so are individual witnesses being told to prepare bread and have wine on hand for the zoom memorial?

  are they saying it’s “vital” or is it just a “suggestion?” .

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  When I was still "in", I made the bread and brought the wine... Last time? I believe 2010.

  Afterwards, my son would tell his friends "It's ok to taste the bread, it's just a symbol, and the ceremony is over... It's just bread, want to taste it?" We had so many happy kids tasting the bread.

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  Alternative Military Service

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "what, though, if the state requires a christian for a period of time to perform civilian service that is a part of national service under a civilian administration?

  … that is his decision before jehovah.

  appointed elders and others should fully respect the conscience of the brother and continue to regard him as a christian in good standing.

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  Good question FFGhost. I knew a married man, father of 4, in the 70's who gave his life rather than bring reproach on Jehovah's name by getting a kidney transplant.

  Just a few years after his death "the light got brighter."
  

  His wife is still alive today, he possibly could have been also.
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  Was the latest letter about not having unauthorized studies announced yet to the congregation today is 3-18-21

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am just curios if the letter about not having unauthorized studies has been announced yet to the congregation?.

  i am just wondering if it will opens anyone's eyes.

  i sure hope it does.

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  Actually, before I left in 2012, I think in 2010 there were a group of older sisters getting together for Bible study research.. reading WT material. Elders put a stop to it back then.
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  When You Were A Witness Did You Believe Everything Taught?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  obviously at some point you stopped believing the witnesses had the truth or else you wouldn’t be here.

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  but for the most part, were you a true believer or were you typically a rebel or a doubter?

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  No, but I kept thinking, Jehovah will "show them up"/ teach them a lesson... He will make them "see the light". I got baptized at 16, in the 70's, because Jehovah was suppose to be a God of Justice. I thought he would "make things right," where no man could.
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  Do old time present day active JW`s genuinely believe in overlapping generations ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for the life of me i can not come to terms with old timers in the "truth" who could swallow this interpretation of scripture about an overlapping generation .. when jesus spoke about "this generation" .

  are their any real bible students among younger ones any more ?.

  here are 3 bible scriptures that confirm a generation is approximately 40- 50 years long give or take a few years .. 1. matt:1 :17 abraham born 2016-18 bc jesus born 2 bc approx.

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  Thx smiddy3, I did the same calculations myself when trying to figure out their new "overlapping generation" crap in 2011. I had to be fair, right?

  I looked up all references to "generation" in the Bible, did the same thing you did with the list in Matthew & Luke, counted all the people, divided the ages, etc, etc.... got the same numbers you did.

  Too bad I was not as smart as Splane! I should have used a very obscure scripture in Deutoronomy? that makes it 'all pretty simple, doesn't it?'

  Why does the WT always use "Hebrew Scriptures" to explain Jesus words in the 'Greek Scriptures?"

  Nod you head, up and down, "Doesn't this make sense? Yes, it does"

  When someone asks me why I am not a JW anymore, I was going to say "Can you say "overlapping generation?"

  But, then I went on Reddit.... someone's handle was "Overcrapping generation" lol!!! That made me feel alllll better... So honest, so simple.

  "Overcrapping"
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  How Many Masks Will You Wear?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are recommendations that we should start doubling up on masks.

  some have even suggested that tripling masks would even be better!

  what’s your opinion of wearing numerous masks?

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  One, and I haven't gotten Covid. I worked in a health center, was around people, one of my co-workers caught it, we were told, and no others got it. I believe she got it from family, but in the office, we all kept our distance, wore masks, washed our hands.

  I go shopping, etc.... I believe that one is enough.

  I also had my 2nd Moderna vaccination on February 12th!